Apple.com has refurbished models of their current generation iPod (the "iPod Classic") available. Go here and scroll down to the bottom of the page. The 80gb model is $40 off at $209 while the 160gb model is $50 off at $299. The iPod Classic, it is larger in capability (80gb or 20,000 songs for $249 versus 30gb or 7,500 songs previously) and smaller in height and weight (it weighs just 4.9 ounces and is considerably thinner at 0.41 inches thin) then the prior model. It has a 2.5" screen for video. With significant savings from new iPod Classic and a complete 1-year Apple warranty, these are worth consideration. Shipping is free.